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You know, judging from the most recent antics of my crazy characters, my Caspian conspiracy theory is about two steps from actually being part of my personal canon.

CASPIAN. THAT'S NOT VERY NICE.

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Date: 2008-07-27 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realpestilence.livejournal.com
He's confused and needs his ass kicked into comprehension. *nods*

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Date: 2008-07-27 12:33 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
He's about two steps from Peter actually beating him to death with a shovel. By God, Caspian is a Telmarine to the core.

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Date: 2008-07-27 12:45 am (UTC)
ext_42328: Language is my playground (Default)
From: [identity profile] ineptshieldmaid.livejournal.com
*goes and reads*

oh. shit. yeah. that's NOT very nice, is it?

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Date: 2008-07-27 12:51 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
No, it's NOT. I don't care what anyone else says, my Caspian is a born-and-bred Telmarine, and not even Narnia can change that.

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Date: 2008-07-27 12:54 am (UTC)
ext_42328: Language is my playground (Default)
From: [identity profile] ineptshieldmaid.livejournal.com
noo... I think you're right...

*scratches nose*

I think Edmund would see it, too. And maybe Peter (if not, Ed would point it out, perhaps). *thinks some more*

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Date: 2008-07-27 01:10 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
The thing is they don't see it just yet, because they aren't looking for it and they don't expect it (and you know, out of practice) -- and they have other things on their minds (this story takes place a couple days previous to the duel/battle), but holy god, I did not see this coming.

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Date: 2008-07-27 01:12 am (UTC)
ext_42328: Language is my playground (Default)
From: [identity profile] ineptshieldmaid.livejournal.com
hum. *sits and waits until you're done* nasty caspian sounds like FUN.

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Date: 2008-07-27 01:20 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
*flaps hands* It's not that he's really doing anything, but just -- the way he thinks.

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Date: 2008-07-27 01:24 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ineptshieldmaid.livejournal.com
That's the best bit! :D

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Date: 2008-07-27 01:29 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
It's like Lucy, only -- I seriously didn't see this coming, because I could see how he could think this way, I just didn't think he actually did. And of course he does, how could he not?, but still -- he's only surprised that Miraz did the dirty work himself. (I'm trying not to let slip the relevent parts of the story here.)

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Date: 2008-07-27 01:30 am (UTC)
ext_42328: Language is my playground (Default)
From: [identity profile] ineptshieldmaid.livejournal.com
*waits with bated breath*

say yes!

Date: 2008-07-27 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lassiterfics.livejournal.com
What about your Cair Paravel/Peter conspiracy theory, do we get to see any of that.

Re: say yes!

Date: 2008-07-27 02:28 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
Not in this story, alas. (Crazy Peter, on the other hand, we see a lot of. Edmund and Susan may be the only sane ones; they didn't surprise me (much) in the writing of this. Of course, they're the two I have to do the most editing on, so who knows?)

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Date: 2008-07-27 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lassiterfics.livejournal.com
This is why I think Edmund and Susan would make a great pair, and why I want to see more of Edmund&Susan in fic. (Or Edmund/Susan. I am not picky!) They always stick Susan with Peter and Edmund with Lucy, which is fine and all, but, like. I mean, Susan is the yin to Peter's yang, and Ed is the yin to Lucy's yang, and I think that would make for some interesting Edmund&/Susan dynamic. They probably roll their eyes a lot and say things to the effect of, "There they go again."

...I forget which parts of this is canon-based and which is fanon-based. EH WELL.

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Date: 2008-07-27 03:08 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah, totally. (This is totally them in "In Constellated Wars". They both stand around going, "And how can we keep Peter from killing them...oh, wait, we can't." And, "Go help Peter." Everybody revolves around Peter, and nobody even notices, least of all him. *is kind of fascinated by this*)

Somehow, I feel you would appreciate this (http://bedlamsbard.livejournal.com/254377.html?thread=1280425#t1280425).

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Date: 2008-07-27 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lassiterfics.livejournal.com
And that's why he picks fights in train stations in London. OH PETER. He is such a primadonna.

Woah hey! I like her being all like "LEAVE YOUR DEAD", and Edmund with the sword and knowing how to be awesome without saying a word. I attribute such Edmunds more to the movieverse, where is all about him being awesome and saying very little.

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Date: 2008-07-27 04:12 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
He is, though. It's not that he's precisely self-absorbed, it's more that he's -- well, now I know why I like writing him (compared to Susan and Edmund). He literally does not notice and does not care what goes on around him unless it sets off his radar in some way.

He is less awesome in bookverse, true. (Horse and His Boy, anyone? Where everyone's all, "Woe is me, we will all die and Susan shall become a slave." Movieverse Susan and Edmund would be, "WE WILL CUT OUR WAY OUT AND GO HOME OVER A CARPET OF DEAD CALORMENES.")

Susan is kind of a hardass. (This does, of course, take place during the year when Peter is missing.)

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Date: 2008-07-27 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lassiterfics.livejournal.com
And he can get away with that sort of callous behavior when he's High King of Narnia, but not as a schoolboy in wartime England. He's not dumb, but his intelligence is a means to an ends, the ends being kicking jerkasses in the face (for Aslaaaaaaan). Which you can't do as a schoolboy in wartime England either! Because you have to act your age!

Horse And His Boy is all sorts of fail. I don't know what to do with it.

I wanna write the fic where Edmund and Susan go to Calormen on a diplomatic mission but it's just a thin excuse for me to wax poetic about the desert and the opulence of Calormene nobility and open-air marketplaces that sell magical trinkets. Probably mention the harems. Ed & Su smoke hookah and engage in affairs possibly with each other. WHERE IS THE ED&/SU asjdlfkksa;fjskf';s

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Date: 2008-07-27 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tekalynn.livejournal.com
Aravis.

Lots and lots of ass-kicking Aravis.

Yeah.

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Date: 2008-07-27 07:00 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
Which is why Peter freaks everyone the fuck out. He's -- his body language is different. He doesn't have the verbal or physical cues of someone his age, and people may not understand what precisely is "wrong" with him, but they know that something is. And Peter, unlike Susan (and they all probably have this to an extent, but it's the greatest with Peter because he's the oldest), doesn't care enough to consciously work at "fixing" it. (This is part of the reason I think he decided to go in for pilot training after he finished school/came of age. Peter of Narnia may be an infantry soldier, but if there's one thing he understands clearly it's warfare, no matter how much the weapons and the battleground have changed. And he simply doesn't have the attitude to be an infantry soldier -- especially since he'd be a grunt -- during WWII. He does have a fighter pilot attitude, and I think he'd recognize that. I have, um, thought about this.)

*wide eyes* I think the best part is Rabadash's plan to take Narnia. "We will capture Archenland! And take Cair Paravel! And kidnap Queen Susan! But we won't hurt King Edmund, so Peter will have no reason to go to war with us! After all, we won't have spilled Narnian blood, and Queen Susan's a girl anyway. And King Peter is a prudent and understanding man!"

Yeah, that's what he'll be saying after Peter rips him apart with his bare hands and plays soccer with his skull. *sigh* Is it bad I kind of want to see that story?

Ooooh. It could take place during Horse and His Boy! (Which always reminds me of, um, Peter/Narnia, because I keep going, "The Land and Her King!" *facepalm*)

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Date: 2008-07-27 07:02 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
Oh, Aravis, you were wasted on that idiot Shasta/Cor.

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Date: 2008-07-27 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swift-tales.livejournal.com
I actually love that conspiracy theory, because it's soooo awesome and fucking believable. I adore it. A bad, nasty, Telmarine Caspian is all sorts of awesome.

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Date: 2008-07-27 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lassiterfics.livejournal.com
Why should he need to fix anything? He's the High fucking King above all other kings, so hello entitlement!, and he feels entitled not just to Narnia, but to the right to save Narnia, and to love her. But there's nothing to be saved in England (gray and dowdy when compared to Narnia, who has birdsong in her laughter), suddenly Edmund has to save HIM, and Susan gets very frustrated with this routine. In fact, all his siblings have had to cut in at least once to remind him that, um, Peter, this is London not Narnia. Well, they have all at some point or another had to remind each other of this. But that is another fic for another time! Peter may have put on his brave face when Aslan told him he couldn't ever go back, but he secretly adds "for now" to the end. I LOVE YOU, MOVIEVERSE.

OH SILLY SILLY CALORMENES. They're not evil darkies, they were just written that way. I grumble in your general direction, Clive! Is it bad if I think the Narnia series needs to be submitted to Remix Redux 'cos it'll then be better-written?

I gotta share something that is only vaguely related, 'cos I'm still a-squee about it: I was asking in [livejournal.com profile] hp_britglish what one would call 'tag' in 1940s London FOR AN HP FIC OF COURSE I SWEAR IT, and of course there was the usual mish-mash of answers that was like "it was called ticks in Ireland in the 70s!" and "it was called touch in Bristol in the 80s!" AND THEN. Some awesome soul was like, "CS Lewis uses "Tig" in the Narnia books, so I think that would definitely work for the 40s and London." HOW PERFECT IS THAT. I dunno if it was a fluke or what, or if said awesome soul clicked on my name and figured out my recent fandom preferences, but either way, I'm left with this feeling of wanting to cackle and squee at the same time.

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Date: 2008-07-27 07:32 pm (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
That boy is so Telmarine it's not even funny. If Peter had ever realized how much of a Telmarine Caspian was -- and I don't think any of them were looking for it or expecting it, so they didn't see it -- Caspian would have been dead at the first opportunity.

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Date: 2008-07-27 07:36 pm (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
I do not even want to think about the fights Peter must have gotten into with his parents, because he doesn't know how to back down and he doesn't see why he should back down. And it's the sort of thing that he really, truly wouldn't notice, care about, or understand.

(I am totally debating the wisdom of writing the story where Narnia gets into trouble and calls Peter back all on her own. Well. Technically there are two of these. One is a Chrestomanci crossover and the other one would be an AU of The Last Battle, which I am totally not ever writing, even if it would be hilarious.)

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