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...I should make a list of "Things I Have Learned From Fandom That Are Going Into My Novel." The fact that it would include "The most depressing ending ever is the one where one half of a pairing dies and the other half goes back to Earth and teaches college" says so much about SGA fandom as a whole. No, really.

[livejournal.com profile] limmenel, you're suddenly in a tizzy wondering which of my babies is dying, aren't you?

See, and I'm a little surprised about this, but writing the I-Search paper actually did help me figure a few things out about my novel -- important things. Like the sociopolitical underpinnings, which I was aware of, but was hoping to just, you know, avoid. But if I actually look at them as important to the theme -- and holy God, are they ever -- then I have figured out the goddamn plot which hid for me for the past year. And it makes me alternately depressed and gleeful, because most depressing yet most perfect ending ever. I mean, it has to end this way. It just has to. ([livejournal.com profile] limmenel, you're going to kill me a lot.)

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Date: 2008-02-12 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] limmenel.livejournal.com
I AM TOTALLY IN A TIZZY.

Omg, how am I supposed to sleep tonight?


(also, I read the fic. OVER AND OVER AGAIN. And I have a long, incoherent review that's half-typed, and basically boils down to OMFG GLEE GLEE GLEE KEYSMASH and eventually I'll get around to finishing it without having to go re-read the fic for the millionth time.)

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Date: 2008-02-12 04:06 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
IT IS SO TRAGIC. The only way I can reconcile myself to it is because I have a long, straggly sequel a little bit planned out in my head that I can under no circumstances think about. (Although, you know, since I said "half of a pairing", it narrows it down to two people. OH MY BABIES.)

(WHEE!)

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Date: 2008-02-12 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] limmenel.livejournal.com
NOOOOOOO DON'T DO IT, BEDLAMS. DO NOT PASS 'GO', DO NOT COLLECT $200, DO NOT KILL OFF THE ADORABLE AWESOME CHARACTERS!

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Date: 2008-02-13 12:06 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
They may not technically be dead. But. It's necessary, for the thematic plot, for them to die. Plus, I can totally, like, pull a Freedom afterwards for the surviving one. Which, also, does not mean anything about which one it may be. It could be Ethan or Cam. Just saying.

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Date: 2008-02-13 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] limmenel.livejournal.com
DREWWWWWWWWWWWWW. CAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. *♥ them*

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Date: 2008-02-13 12:58 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
You know, I was going to do the whole novel from Beau's POV, then I wrote a bunch of Ethan flashback scenes, realized that thematically speaking, the novel should be from Cam's POV since Ethan and Beau both revolve around him -- but I like Ethan's POV better, so it'll probably be a mix of Ethan and Beau. Which does some interesting things to the...I don't even know what word I'm looking for here. I'm probably horribly misusing thematic.

I love them so much. I just have no idea how I'm going to explain to the senior project advisory board, not to mention my parents (including my very conservative father, who claims he's not that conservative but he's so totally lying), that my main characters are gay. *sigh*

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Date: 2008-02-13 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] limmenel.livejournal.com
Tell them it's a METAPHOR or something.

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Date: 2008-02-13 01:43 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
I already have to cut the sex out (which kind of sucks, because there goes my softcore opening scene; it's the one I showed you awhile back on [livejournal.com profile] bardicvoices); I've been planning to use it as just, "Look, these are the sociopolitical concerns that are prevalent. Number one is the war; Rokasa = Iraq, kind of. Number two is the homosexuality thing and the prevalent attitudes toward it, including Don't Ask, Don't Tell and some other stuff."

The best part is that I've talked to liberals about it and I've talked to conservatives about it, and both come away thinking I'm supporting their "side." Except for the Ethan/Cam thing. That I try and keep quiet, because I don't really think it's that big of a deal in the bigger picture. It's -- it's them, you know? And Ethan could be a chick, or Cam could be a chick, or it could have been Ethan/Shelton like it was originally supposed to be (hilariously, at one point I was considering having Cam be having an affair with Berin Sunstark, so you see how things change), but that's not important. What's going on is bigger than them, but having a pairing puts it at a personal level. They just happen to both be guys.

(Sorry, I'm just kind of exploding at you because I haven't had a chance to talk about this with anybody and it gets all pent up. And I've practically been breathing Spaceforce these past few weeks.)

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Date: 2008-02-12 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] limmenel.livejournal.com
Also, I only JUST got the McAullife reference in your Spaceforce novel. I'm lame, seriously, but I had no idea who she was named after until tonight.

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Date: 2008-02-12 04:04 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
...she was named after someone? Do tell.

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Date: 2008-02-12 12:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] limmenel.livejournal.com
Oh, I assumed it was Christa McAuliffe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christa_McAuliffe), who I was looking up for random purposes last night.

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Date: 2008-02-13 12:13 am (UTC)
ext_2135: narnia: home sweet home (soraki) (Default)
From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
Huh. Creepy, yet appropriate (um, apart from the death part). There's a chance she actually was named after Christs McAuliffe -- I came up with the name Shelton McAuliffe three or four years ago; all I knew was that she was a sci-fi scientist. I never really had a big chance to use her until Spaceforce.

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