One of y'all tell me not to do this terrible thing, or even think of this terrible thing, or tell my brain to SHUT UP.
Because. Well.
Last Battle AU where there is no train crash and a shed is just a shed and Aslan does not, you know, end the world, and five years later Calormen has totally taken over Narnia and the remaining true Narnians are hiding out in the woods, along with Tirian, Eustace, and Jill. And Tirian? Not popular. He's looked upon as a weak king and the Narnian outlaws have no real leader; they're just a scattered mass of rebels that aren't really succeeding in doing anything, argue a lot among themselves, and make no impact on Calormene Narnian society as a whole. The most they've succeeded in doing is killing Shift and Puzzle, and now the Calormenes aren't even making a pretense at worshipping Aslan or Tashlan; it's a big mass conversioin of Narnia to worshipping Tash. In a way it's sort of like the Telmarine situation at the time of PC, but about ten times worse, and without the thirteen hundred years of trauma beforehand.
Meanwhile, what's sprung up among the free Narnians is a kind of cult worship of the Pevensies, who had fallen out of vogue in the three hundred years between Caspian's reign and Tirian. But in such a time of deprivation, they're Back In, and so once again you start seeing charms asking for the protection of the King of Summer, or the King of Evening's vengeance, or the blessing of the Queen of Spring, or the luck of the Queen of Morning. Belief in the Pevensies is kind of muddled at this point, between the actual historical figures that are talked about in the history books -- and still, there's not much left -- and the somewhat mythical figures of legend. (There's a big debating school on whether it was really the Kings and Queens of old who showed up during Caspian's time; some believe it was just their "spirits", and in most of Narnia the Pevensies hold demigod or saint status.) Someone, somehow, gets the bright idea to summon the kings and queens back to Narnia -- maybe using earth magic, maybe using blood, maybe using need, maybe using their sacred artifacts, which have been stolen from Calormene-occupied Cair Paravel. (Which is not built on the ruins of the old Cair Paravel; the new Cair Paravel is located on the mainland, not the nameless island, or maybe it has a name now.) Well, they're summoned -- and they come. All four of them.
I think at this point Tirian, Eustace, and Jill have all been captured by the Calormenes, and Peter and the others break them out of prison; it's worth it just for the sight of Peter sticking his head in and Eustace going, "Peter?", Jill going, "Lieutenant Pevensie?", and Tirian going, "...I am so fucked," because he remembers the curse/prophecy passed down through his line back to Caspian the Seafarer himself, where it's said that the High King will only return to Narnia to enact his vengeance on Caspian's line if Narnia should be ruined.
Also, for Peter drawing Rhindon in one smooth movement and Tirian going, "NOBODY USES THAT SWORD. EVER," and Peter raising his eyebrows and going, "It's my sword."
There is no romance. There is some Susan drama where Lucy mocks her a lot and Susan finally screams at her.
Also, there is no plot; I mostly just want to play with how the Pevensies are looked at differently based on the times, and something about the demarcation between history and myth, and legend and history, and belief.
Also, there is this:
Okay, NOW I NEED TO STUDY.
ETA: OKAY FINE. Because it's the weekend (and Homecoming weekend at that! Roll Wave, wash out Army, and so forth), and I am a crazy person, and before I lose the threads of this, are there any specific bits that y'all would want to see? Just throw out some situations here and I'll play with them. Also, do not even think about saying "the whole thing!" because seriously, no plot.
Because. Well.
Last Battle AU where there is no train crash and a shed is just a shed and Aslan does not, you know, end the world, and five years later Calormen has totally taken over Narnia and the remaining true Narnians are hiding out in the woods, along with Tirian, Eustace, and Jill. And Tirian? Not popular. He's looked upon as a weak king and the Narnian outlaws have no real leader; they're just a scattered mass of rebels that aren't really succeeding in doing anything, argue a lot among themselves, and make no impact on Calormene Narnian society as a whole. The most they've succeeded in doing is killing Shift and Puzzle, and now the Calormenes aren't even making a pretense at worshipping Aslan or Tashlan; it's a big mass conversioin of Narnia to worshipping Tash. In a way it's sort of like the Telmarine situation at the time of PC, but about ten times worse, and without the thirteen hundred years of trauma beforehand.
Meanwhile, what's sprung up among the free Narnians is a kind of cult worship of the Pevensies, who had fallen out of vogue in the three hundred years between Caspian's reign and Tirian. But in such a time of deprivation, they're Back In, and so once again you start seeing charms asking for the protection of the King of Summer, or the King of Evening's vengeance, or the blessing of the Queen of Spring, or the luck of the Queen of Morning. Belief in the Pevensies is kind of muddled at this point, between the actual historical figures that are talked about in the history books -- and still, there's not much left -- and the somewhat mythical figures of legend. (There's a big debating school on whether it was really the Kings and Queens of old who showed up during Caspian's time; some believe it was just their "spirits", and in most of Narnia the Pevensies hold demigod or saint status.) Someone, somehow, gets the bright idea to summon the kings and queens back to Narnia -- maybe using earth magic, maybe using blood, maybe using need, maybe using their sacred artifacts, which have been stolen from Calormene-occupied Cair Paravel. (Which is not built on the ruins of the old Cair Paravel; the new Cair Paravel is located on the mainland, not the nameless island, or maybe it has a name now.) Well, they're summoned -- and they come. All four of them.
I think at this point Tirian, Eustace, and Jill have all been captured by the Calormenes, and Peter and the others break them out of prison; it's worth it just for the sight of Peter sticking his head in and Eustace going, "Peter?", Jill going, "Lieutenant Pevensie?", and Tirian going, "...I am so fucked," because he remembers the curse/prophecy passed down through his line back to Caspian the Seafarer himself, where it's said that the High King will only return to Narnia to enact his vengeance on Caspian's line if Narnia should be ruined.
Also, for Peter drawing Rhindon in one smooth movement and Tirian going, "NOBODY USES THAT SWORD. EVER," and Peter raising his eyebrows and going, "It's my sword."
There is no romance. There is some Susan drama where Lucy mocks her a lot and Susan finally screams at her.
Also, there is no plot; I mostly just want to play with how the Pevensies are looked at differently based on the times, and something about the demarcation between history and myth, and legend and history, and belief.
Also, there is this:
Some days, Tirian finds himself wondering if his ancestor Caspian the Seafarer lived this same kind of outlaw existence, hiding in the woods and stealing food from the towns, fleeing before Calormene soldiers and Narnian traitors.
Okay, NOW I NEED TO STUDY.
ETA: OKAY FINE. Because it's the weekend (and Homecoming weekend at that! Roll Wave, wash out Army, and so forth), and I am a crazy person, and before I lose the threads of this, are there any specific bits that y'all would want to see? Just throw out some situations here and I'll play with them. Also, do not even think about saying "the whole thing!" because seriously, no plot.
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Date: 2008-10-03 04:33 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2008-10-03 06:11 pm (UTC)But no pressure from me. I'm content just knowing this idea may progress.
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Date: 2008-10-03 05:08 pm (UTC)Every time you ask for prompts because you are bored, I am going to ask for more of this story. You should consider yourself warned.
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Date: 2008-10-03 05:45 pm (UTC)Hey, I don't mind writing bits of it, I just don't want to write, you know, the whole thing. Bits means I get to play around with it without actually writing it. And I really just want to play around with some of the concepts.
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Date: 2008-10-03 05:46 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2008-10-03 05:47 pm (UTC)Oh dear, no. Please write this terrible thing. :D
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Date: 2008-10-03 07:02 pm (UTC)Also, King of Evening, Queen of Morning, squee! Lucy would so be called on for luck.
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Date: 2008-10-03 07:39 pm (UTC)Soooo, when Peter and co get into a conversation with Eustace on how utterly *useless* Tirian is...
Also. You know how you previously said Jill only knows Peter is very very fuckign scary broken borderline alcoholic Lieutenant Pevensie, and then sees him in full High King mode? Pissed off that Narnia's got to this state. (Tirian : Narnia's Edward the Confessor) But also - he's back in Narnia.
The tales around the campfire and Eustace keeping quiet about the fact that these are his cousins because he features in the 'spirits of the Pevensies' stuff as a mysterious guider/helper/saviour in the Tale of Rilian, since the Pevensies were the guardians of King Caspian the Seafarer. C'mon, I wants the meta.
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Date: 2008-10-03 07:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-10-04 12:56 am (UTC)I'd love to see Susan's reintegration into the group.
I'd love to see all of it, actually.
Do we get any cross-species Jewel/Tirian love?
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Date: 2008-10-04 06:25 pm (UTC)One of y'all tell me not to do this terrible thing.
Oh my god! No! Please do write it! It is such fun!
Talking about Pevensies being worshipped as semi-gods, it is interesting now you should mention it. I had a discussion with one of my friends not long after watching the movie, and we actually had this crazy idea going on that possible, one of the reasons for the Pevensies to be driven out of Narnia after their fifteen-year reign is because they garnered too much worship during that time and Aslan/or whoever that cast them out, sees a problem in this and promptly threw them out of Narnia. Of course, this is a shaky theory, and anyone adores Aslan's probably going to skin us alive. But still, it has something to do with this "Pevensie worship" we are talking about here. And it is so very interesting to set it into perspective around the time of the Last Battle, because that makes it so much more solid. *urges you on* You should definitely write! If not the whole thing, at least a lot of things that are interesting.
And yes, squeals at your ETA. And I am going to throw you a fat list. If you are interested, I would feel so awesome if you'd write more than one of them. But if you only want to write one, that's still better than nothing! So, the list.
1. The one you mentioned up there, "at this point Tirian, Eustace, and Jill have all been captured by the Calormenes, and Peter and the others break them out of prison; it's worth it just for the sight of Peter sticking his head in and Eustace going, "Peter?", Jill going, "Lieutenant Pevensie?", and Tirian going, "...I am so fucked," because he remembers the curse/prophecy passed down through his line back to Caspian the Seafarer himself, where it's said that the High King will only return to Narnia to enact his vengeance on Caspian's line if Narnia should be ruined."
2. Tirian's observation of the High King as events progress. I think he'd probably frightened of them. But I am wondering whether there's any initial disappointment like Caspian felt in PC movie or not?
3. Different Narnians' different observation/reaction about the High King and his sibling's return. Especially those that does not believe a word about the Pevensies helped Caspian win his crown? Shocked/Disbelieve/Incredulity/or whatever they will be feeling? And whether Peter and Edmund need to prove their worth all over again? (it'd probably be better than last time though, because Peter and Edmund and Susan and Lucy are actually older now. At least Peter could be fully regarded as an adult now.) And, if by any miracle deeds the Pevensies actually restore Narnia again, there will have this legend circulated that whenever Narnia has trouble, the Pevensies will come and help and restore everything! Aslan probably will not be happy. *laughs*
4. A argument between a Pevensie worshipper and one that is not? Although it's going to be a pointless argument, I bet no one can convince the other party, but still, worth seeing for it's so interesting!
5. And this one you mentioned too, I really want to see it! Also, for Peter drawing Rhindon in one smooth movement and Tirian going, "NOBODY USES THAT SWORD. EVER," and Peter raising his eyebrows and going, "It's my sword."
6. The Pevensies' kind of fed up of the need to save the day, even Peter? Or maybe especially Peter, I don't know. *wonders*
I think this list is fat enough and I am going to stop for now. *grins* But really, I so wish you would write the whole thing!
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Date: 2008-10-04 06:44 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2008-10-05 12:22 pm (UTC)I'm wondering if it's not even going to be initial disappointment as utter 'oh dear fucking god, no-one told me they were going to be like *this*!'
Caspian : part of his disappointment was the fact that they were younger than him rather than the legendary *adult* warriors. Then they turned out to be savage warlords who didn't know anything about courtesy and honour, and were perfectly willing to use tactics like collapsing part of the How - which probably had half the narnians screaming sacrilege, because King Arthur is not supposed to be the kind of person who blows up the temple you built in his memory.
Tirian, on the other hand, is getting the re-grown-up Pevensies - harder, bitter, been through wars in this world, the full-on disappointments they had to go through in the meantime. Not just Peter (who has gotten far scarier) but Susan. Christ, the amount she's stagnated. So, um, they arrive in Narnia, and it's a new lease of life. It may be war-torn and guerrillas and so on, but it's *not* rationing and grey and repressed as post-war Britain was.
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Date: 2008-10-05 02:42 pm (UTC)And yes, the initial disappointment of Caspian surely stems from their age. They look like children, and Caspian doesn't think children can do much to help him. But I am sure later on he gets this no-one told me they were going to be like *this* too, I am sure. *laughs*
it's a new lease of life. It may be war-torn and guerrillas and so on, but it's *not* rationing and grey and repressed as post-war Britain was.
No doubt! And what's more, they are actually able to do something to help! And to help a great deal. Not like in England, they are more or less as powerless as anybody else. So definitely better here.
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Date: 2008-10-04 07:35 pm (UTC)However, I do absolutely *adore* Peter being all angry, every inch the High King or even when he's being particularly bloodthirsty. Oh oh oh and Edmund at his side, making smart comments and being absolutely obedient (in front of the subjects anyway). =P