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[bedlamsbard]

In case y'all hear my hysterical laughter and "oh my God, you're all fucking idiots" (no, seriously, I'm talking to the computer, it's that bad) coming from the general direction of the Crescent City, don't worry! It's just me watching Merlin, which is actually really, really making me want to write Narnia.

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[almostinstinct.livejournal.com]

\o/ Good idea, actually...

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

I keep going OH MY GOD NARNIA COULD BEAT THESE PEOPLE IN TWO SECONDS FLAT. OH NOW I WANT PETER TO PUNCH SOMEONE OUT IN HIGH COURT. WAIT I JUST HAD A GRIFFIN ATTACK IN THE WOODS.

[almostinstinct.livejournal.com]

LOL. SAY HI TO THE LOW-BUDGET CASPIAN.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

It's so true. SO TRUE. It's like the producers watched Caspian and went, "Hey! This shit is popular right now! Let's try it out! Huh, I wonder if we have to come up with something out of whole cloth or if we can use some existing framework...hey, what about King Arthur? No one's done that for a while! That's always popular! And we'll make it an origin story, those are in right now!"

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

:cough: um, the merlin show has actually been kicked around as an idea at the bbc since Dr Who first came out. Robin Hood, they made near-immediately. We were hearing rumours about Merlin in the trades/digitalspy etc from around the same time as we first started hearing about robin hood.

Once they figured out that they could successfully do prime-time big budget family (costume drama of *any* sort is expensive, let alone stuff where you can't drag it out of wardrobe like you can with Dickens), the first thing they thought about was arthurian and Robin Hood. It's like a default switch in the British brain. considering Torchwood's first name back when RTD first had the idea was Excalibur, I rest my case.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Oh, I have no problem believing that. It's just the similarities in casting alone... (lookswise, I mean.)

[muridae-x.livejournal.com]

Oh, the griffin. It's diabolically bad, especially if you let a human get in shot with it and try to take it out with their sword-that-doesn't-actually-touch-the-CGI. It almost makes the dragon look good.

(I am hoping for much much better dragon stuff from Eustace and Smaug in the next few years, btw.)

It's pretty clear that nobody involved in the show knows anything about military tactics or fighting in general. You'd at least think a couple of the actors might have learned to sword fight in stage school.

So yes, the Pevensies would wipe the floor with them.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

The really funny thing is that approximately twelve hours before I saw that ep I actually did write a scene where a wild griffin attacked Tirian and company. That amuses me.

The CGI makes me cry. I thought they'd gotten better CGI since the HtLJ and XWP days! And I think that CGI was actually better.

They have freakin' Weta, man; they can pull off anything.

The Pevensies in LWW would wipe the floor with them. Give them until PC and all Peter would have to do would be blink.

[muridae-x.livejournal.com]

Weta have got better at it since Hercules and Xena; the BBC were still at the wobbly set and silver spray painted hairdryers as laser guns stage back then, so they've come on by leaps and bounds really. It's all relative. It's just that BBC special effects relatively suck, if they get ambitious beyond their current abilities.

I hope that Tirian and co gave a good account of themselves. Poor guy, I feel a sneaking sympathy for him. He asked for help, certainly, but he didn't ask to have his country turned off as the permanent cure to its problems.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Weta can do anything. I am convinced of this.

It was in flashback; they did pretty good. When I put an effort into it, Tirian actually does pretty well for himself; he's not a general like Peter is and he doesn't have Caspian's charisma, but he is a leader, and a good one.

...which unfortunately translates into a random urge to write Peter/Tirian, but, uh, no.

[muridae-x.livejournal.com]

*pets poor Tirian*

There there. I'm sure he'll get over the disappointment eventually. Jewel will lend him a unicorn-sized shoulder to cry on.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Tirian's even more terrified of Peter than Caspian ever was, even after the executions. It's awesome.

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

So how is the glorious pretty and TEXT? (in big, neon letters). This is the fandom where every third comment of the ep-watching-as-it happens is 'oh, BOYS.'

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Lass and I have been writing Peter/Arthur in her journal. I think that says all RIGHT THERE.

Also I think we need a fight choreographer and more Arthur, but that's just me. And Narnia could beat these people in two seconds flat.

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

Oh yes. But I'm sure peter could find a use for arthur. Oi, knights, I'm sure you're supposed to do some fighting, not just let the prince do all the work. Arthur would be a complete arrogant sod but as soon as he'd been laid on his back after about ten seconds, would be going 'okay, you're not bad, teach me everything. Pretty please?'

The thing is who would seduce who. Or rather, both of them trying to seduce the other at the exact same time. Probably have Merlin, Morgana, Gwen, Susan, Edmund and Lucy all cocking their heads and going 'Are they seriously trying to be *subtle* about the eyeing up?'
Lucy : 'Right, so one of them slamming up against the wall is a given. Both of them trying to do the menacing purr and hand brush, yes... At what point do we get fighting as courtship?'
Edmund : 'What precisely do you think are the chances of persuading Uther that marrying his son off to another king is a good idea? It'd work better than marrying Peter to a random princess. Arthur could at least keep up.'
Lucy : 'So, how many songs have your minstrels got about golden-haired princes who like to fight?'
Gwen : Three so far. And they're more barrack-room and pub songs.'

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

All I can do is flail at lassiterfics and my commentfic (http://lassiterfics.livejournal.com/69632.html?thread=807936#t807936).

Seriously, if Peter and Arthur ever met, first they'd try and kill each other, and then they'd get naked and probably still be trying to kill each other. They wouldn't be sure if they were having sex or fighting!

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

mwhahahaha. I totally called the slamming.

Can we have edmund-morgana talking or at least making little observation comments? because morgana can see what uther can't re: peter and edmund being *kings*.

exhibition fight : we can has?

Plus, you know merlin's going to look at the pretty horses. and do magic in front of *them*.

Um. Hasn't Uther *heard* of Narnia re: magical creatures? Or did Peter and Edmund come over? (for your map-head purposes - Albion is pretty clearly England/Wales, since they've so far mentioned Northumberland and Mercia - which is everything on either side of the Welsh border. We're not sure which bit Camelot's supposed to be, since Albion is the whole country rather than the individual kingdoms like Mercia. We're guessing they'll mention something like Wessex, but not counting on it. Yeah. England wasn't one country until quite late on in the saxon era.)

(you're talking to someone who spent the entire train journey ride home writing susan/peter/bacchus. Non-stop porn. I have no bloody idea why, since I'm trying to gauge my peter on leave and keep going 'remember, yours isn't bedlams, your isn't bedlams... lucy, stop prodding peter for wounds.'

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Dude, there is totally going to be fighting. As long as I have a hand in writing it, there is going to be fighting, because I like me my action, and I can't pass up the chance to compare Arthur's relative flamboyance with Peter's conservativeness. (Seriously, Arthur has so much extraneous action. He's going to be waving his sword around and Peter's just going to be standing there, waiting patiently, looking bored.)

Shh! I could develop an action plot in approximately three seconds flat, but Lass is kindly pointing out that the point of the story is the Peter/Arthur, so I'm forcing myself not to develop the hints of action plot in the back of my brain.

*raises eyebrows* Was your Peter not a POW?

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

hey, Peter/Arthur, all you have to write is sex/fighting with added bits of snark. That constitutes a plot, doesn't it?

Nope. My Peter's just home on leave from Malaya. Problem is that Dad Pevensie has heard about peter's rep from his old army buddies (the ones who stayed and went pro, or were pro in the first place) and mum has steadily been freaking out all these years over how the kids don't act like normal kids and talk in code. and Lucy is bossing Peter around on the subject of injuries.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

not in my head. I want to add in an enemy! A fight! An attack! A secret plot to break up the alliance and kill Peter and Arthur (you know, for a change, since it's been such a long time since anyone tried to kill Arthur).

Ah. *grins* I actually have to do research at some point, to see how badly Edmund would have to be injured before he could be shipped home and what Peter could do that would get him threatened with a court-martial but not actually get one.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Wait, disregard that last bit, my Peter wasn't a POW either. My Peter was MIA.