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[bedlamsbard]

Okay, ducks, riddle me this: 1940, the Pevensies enter Narnia. Lucy's what, ten? And Peter, five years older, is fifteen. 1941, time two, Peter and Susan are too old at approximately sixteen and fifteen. 1942, time three, Edmund and Lucy are too old at fourteen and thirteen, Eustace is, like, twelve or eleven? 1943, Eustace and Jill are around twelve or thirteen? 1949: Peter's twenty-four, Susan's twenty-three, Edmund's twenty-one, Lucy's nineteen, and Eustace and Jill are seventeen or eighteen and the only ones still in school.

And they're not too old?

Aslan is very active throughout VotDT and SC, after having relatively minimal presence throughout LWW and PC. (Excuse me while I randomly combine bookverse and movieverse. It's a thing. Also ignore how fucked my ages probably are. Again.) And again, ye olde Aslan Conspiracy Theory. He did not bring them through in LWW, he did not bring them through in PC, he did bring them through in VotDT and he definitely did bring them through in SC. And yet in LB, Tirian summons them. Aslan did not bring them through. Tirian does. And -- Narnia?

And there's that whole train crash thing. Whatever. Irrelevant.

OH LEWIS WHAT NOW?

(Yes. I think about these things all the friggin' time.)

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[dikela.livejournal.com]

Well, neither am I Christian and my family is atheist. I read Lewis's Narnia Chronicles as interesting stories, and even when I learned about Christian symbolism it didn't change.

Lewis makes a point of always bringing children through -- physically children.

But these are children's books and it is children who have to learn their lesson.

If it's inner maturity, then the Pevensies wouldn't have been allowed to return during PC, because at that point they've been adults for the better part of two decades; they just happen to be in children's bodies now.

But were they really mature in the beginning of PC? In book and in film I didn't really feel it. It seemed as if their bodies influenced their behaviour. Peter and Susan at the end have learned to accept the inevitable.

None of our gods have destroyed the world after getting ticked off that someone else stole their toys.

But was it Aslan who destroyed Narnia? Remember, in LWW Jadis says, that unless she gets the traitor's blood "Narnia would perish in blood and water". Shift, the Ape was the Traitor and, though Tirian threw him into the stable, I wouldn't say that he was punished, just killed in the battle. And it was Tash who got him.
So, since the requirements were not met, Narnia had perished. And Aslan took those he could into his country.

Bardy, do you still consider TMN and LB myths? As I wrote somewhere earlier there is a live witness to TMN -- Digory Kirk. As a child he sees the creation of Narnia and, btw, it(Narnia) dies when he does.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Well, Aslan killed Jadis back in LWW, so. *sheepish grin*

Yeah, I still consider MN and LB creation and destruction myths, partially because in my 'verse, there's a whole world outside Narnia, and it doesn't make sense for any one deity to have that kind of power. (If and when the Stardust/Narnia crossover ever gets written, we shall see this, because one of the main points in that is that Aslan isn't the god, he's a god, and the other gods are pissed.) And I'm aware that Digory Kirke and Polly Plummer are live witnesses, and yet --

Well, there're several reasons I write movieverse.

[dikela.livejournal.com]

Personally, I never thought Aslan to be THE god. If Lewis equals him with Jesus Christ then THE God is Jehovah -- the Emperor Beyond the Sea.

And yes, I know how it is when you KNOW something, but your knowledge is just standing quietly to the side.
So, go on writing movieverse and I shall READ your stories.