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Nov. 30th, 2008
Title: Men of Honor
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bedlamsbard
Fandom: Chronicles of Narnia movieverse
Rating: PG-13
Summary: "You could stay here," he suggests. Peter/Glozelle, PC missing scene.
Disclaimer: The Chronicles of Narnia and its characters, situations, settings, etc., belong to C.S. Lewis. Some characters, situations, settings, etc., belong to Walden Media.
Author's Note: I believe it wasrealpestilence who pointed out that Glozelle was exactly Peter's type, and encouraged this madness.
( Men of Honor )
Author:
bedlamsbardFandom: Chronicles of Narnia movieverse
Rating: PG-13
Summary: "You could stay here," he suggests. Peter/Glozelle, PC missing scene.
Disclaimer: The Chronicles of Narnia and its characters, situations, settings, etc., belong to C.S. Lewis. Some characters, situations, settings, etc., belong to Walden Media.
Author's Note: I believe it was
realpestilence who pointed out that Glozelle was exactly Peter's type, and encouraged this madness.( Men of Honor )
...great, now I have to wait for my copy of PC to arrive just so I can look at the geography around Cair Paravel. Except then I'll probably end up ignoring it anyway, and clearly we aren't getting actual movie canon evidence of Telmarine Cair Paravel until SC comes out in, like, 2012. And clearly I'm not waiting that long to write Dust 6.
OKAY. The answer here is ask people very nicely what they noticed, look up the beach they filmed that bit on, look at the map of the shoreline, and logic it out from there. Caspian didn't build on the nameless island, but he built relatively near it -- within a day's ride, probably less -- good natural harbor, the castle a mar has to be on a cliff -- I established the White Cliffs of Morgencolla in "The White City", so I suppose that would be a decent place, except I don't think the White Cliffs have a harbor. Except New Cair Paravel could be like Athens, and the harbor could be a couple miles away. That is an option. But I definitely want cliffs.
*stares at official Narnia map* Is it. So damn hard. To make a NEW MAP? Since the coastline clearly changed between LWW and PC; Old Cair Paravel is now an island. We could put New Cair Paravel on the headland where Old Cair Paravel used to be, which is the most logical place because that's where the mouth of the Great River is, and then the nameless island (if one has not yet figured it out, the nameless island is the island where the ruins of Old Cair Paravel are) could be in the harbor. Like the Statue of Liberty. Except less, you know, welcoming, because of the whole "haunted by bloodthirsty ghosts" thing.
*bats eyelashes* Anybody who has PC already, or gets it some time before I do (which is probably going to be late next week or early the week after; I ordered it from Amazon), or has really good screencaps of the mainland around Cair Paravel -- any chance you want to tell me about it? I mean, chances are I'm just going to make this up anyway, but it would be nice to have some semi-canonical support.
ETA: There are pictures, and they are friggin' gorgeous. I mean, after this I get to google castles and try and figure out what Caspian would have built and how it would have been built on top of a cliff (elements of Telmarine and Narnian architecture, emphasis on the Telmarine because Caspian is Telmarine and Narnian because he would have been trying to imitate the Cair Paravel he saw in Cornelius' books, but New Cair Paravel wouldn't have the "grew out of the ground" aspect that Old Cair Paravel had), but whatever, castles aren't that hard to google, unlike, say, CLIFFS.
Cathedral Cove, Ha Hei Beach, Coromandel, New Zealand 2 3 (and then I abruptly remembered that this is the nameless island, not the mainland. CRAP.)
Mercury Bay, Coromandel, New Zealand 2
Hereherataura, Coromandel, New Zealand
Except those are all film sites for the nameless island, not the mainland. *bites lip* And the rest of the New Zealand sites are the river, and everything else was filmed in the Czech Republic and Poland.
ETA2: Oh my God, if I have to look up clothes on top of geography, cliffs, and castles -- I am taking my costuming cues from Stardust, which means Peter is now dressed like Tristan. Does anyone, uh, want to tell me what era of history that's from? Victorian? Or I could knock it back to PotC style; they don't actually seem to be all that different despite the two hundred year gap. I definitely want it to seem like time has progresed from the Golden Age and from Caspian's time, which leaves out your general period fantasy garb, a.k.a. the majority of the LotR stuff except for the hobbits. That'd work, probably.
You know what would be nice? If costuming fans did not focus on just the women ninety percent of the time. It's a lot harder to find pictures of men's costumes than of women's. I mean, yeah, the women have gorgeous dresses and all that, but it doesn't help when you're trying to dress the boys.
Funnily enough, the one point of description in Dust and my other Narnia fic seems to be that I describe the clothes. Not the scenery, not the characters, just the clothes. This is funny because I don't actually know all that much about clothes. *sigh*
OKAY. The answer here is ask people very nicely what they noticed, look up the beach they filmed that bit on, look at the map of the shoreline, and logic it out from there. Caspian didn't build on the nameless island, but he built relatively near it -- within a day's ride, probably less -- good natural harbor, the castle a mar has to be on a cliff -- I established the White Cliffs of Morgencolla in "The White City", so I suppose that would be a decent place, except I don't think the White Cliffs have a harbor. Except New Cair Paravel could be like Athens, and the harbor could be a couple miles away. That is an option. But I definitely want cliffs.
*stares at official Narnia map* Is it. So damn hard. To make a NEW MAP? Since the coastline clearly changed between LWW and PC; Old Cair Paravel is now an island. We could put New Cair Paravel on the headland where Old Cair Paravel used to be, which is the most logical place because that's where the mouth of the Great River is, and then the nameless island (if one has not yet figured it out, the nameless island is the island where the ruins of Old Cair Paravel are) could be in the harbor. Like the Statue of Liberty. Except less, you know, welcoming, because of the whole "haunted by bloodthirsty ghosts" thing.
*bats eyelashes* Anybody who has PC already, or gets it some time before I do (which is probably going to be late next week or early the week after; I ordered it from Amazon), or has really good screencaps of the mainland around Cair Paravel -- any chance you want to tell me about it? I mean, chances are I'm just going to make this up anyway, but it would be nice to have some semi-canonical support.
ETA: There are pictures, and they are friggin' gorgeous. I mean, after this I get to google castles and try and figure out what Caspian would have built and how it would have been built on top of a cliff (elements of Telmarine and Narnian architecture, emphasis on the Telmarine because Caspian is Telmarine and Narnian because he would have been trying to imitate the Cair Paravel he saw in Cornelius' books, but New Cair Paravel wouldn't have the "grew out of the ground" aspect that Old Cair Paravel had), but whatever, castles aren't that hard to google, unlike, say, CLIFFS.
Cathedral Cove, Ha Hei Beach, Coromandel, New Zealand 2 3 (and then I abruptly remembered that this is the nameless island, not the mainland. CRAP.)
Mercury Bay, Coromandel, New Zealand 2
Hereherataura, Coromandel, New Zealand
Except those are all film sites for the nameless island, not the mainland. *bites lip* And the rest of the New Zealand sites are the river, and everything else was filmed in the Czech Republic and Poland.
ETA2: Oh my God, if I have to look up clothes on top of geography, cliffs, and castles -- I am taking my costuming cues from Stardust, which means Peter is now dressed like Tristan. Does anyone, uh, want to tell me what era of history that's from? Victorian? Or I could knock it back to PotC style; they don't actually seem to be all that different despite the two hundred year gap. I definitely want it to seem like time has progresed from the Golden Age and from Caspian's time, which leaves out your general period fantasy garb, a.k.a. the majority of the LotR stuff except for the hobbits. That'd work, probably.
You know what would be nice? If costuming fans did not focus on just the women ninety percent of the time. It's a lot harder to find pictures of men's costumes than of women's. I mean, yeah, the women have gorgeous dresses and all that, but it doesn't help when you're trying to dress the boys.
Funnily enough, the one point of description in Dust and my other Narnia fic seems to be that I describe the clothes. Not the scenery, not the characters, just the clothes. This is funny because I don't actually know all that much about clothes. *sigh*