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I am kind of fascinated by the idea of writing a Narnia/LotR crossover. I mean, in TTT Eomer is off wandering around for who knows how long, and maybe he wandered into Narnia! Pursued by orcs! Straight into the middle of the High King's hunting party! And as the Rohirrim were fighting, an arrow came out of nowhere to save Eomer at the last minute, and everybody turned around to see the High King of Narnia, Queen Susan, King Edmund, Queen Lucy, and a fair portion of the Narnian court standing on the bluff above. And Peter says, in a terrible voice, "Leave my land, or as Aslan witness it, there will be more blood spilled here today. I shall sanction no evil to be done in Narnia so long as I sit at Cair Paravel." Quickly followed by the orcs growling insults and the Narnians charging, and afterwards Peter feasts the Rohirrim at Cair Paravel and Lucy flirts and Susan and Eomer...talk. (If you know what I mean, and I think you do.) And then Gandalf shows up and goes, "A little help would be appreciated if you'd like a country to go back to. By the way, your uncle's no longer crazy and your cousin's dead."

After all, there definitely weren't two thousand lancers when they surrounded Aragorn and Co. (movieverse). Maybe the rest came from...somewhere else.

Like Narnia!

Followed by, ahem, and then Peter killed a bunch of people. Excuse me, orcs. Then Peter killed a bunch of orcs, and made friends with Theoden and Aragorn and possibly had a fling with Legolas. Then he went back to Narnia. Or, I don't know, maybe he went back to Narnia, raised a bigger army, and rode to Gondor to be part of the big battle in front of Minas Tirith. Only, that part we probably would have seen in the movie, but we could fanwank the rest. Maybe.

Hey, at least my delusions are fun.

(No, seriously. Eomer/Susan. Can anyone else see it?)

(Why, yes, I did just rewatch the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy. The extended editions, thank you very much, which is less like watching movies and more like watching the entire season of a TV series. Although I have to admit, I think the battle strategy in Narnia is better than in LotR; clearly Peter is a better general than, um, Theoden and Aragorn and Gandalf and Sauron and Denethor...okay, anyone is better than Denethor. Also, I would totally meta on movie!Legolas -- I am so predictable it hurts -- but I have an orthodontist appointment in the morning, so, uh, not now.)

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[cupiscent.livejournal.com]

No, seriously. Eomer/Susan. Can anyone else see it?
See it? I'm thinking of building a house there and moving in.

Peter could never have come back through to Middle Earth, though. Because the conflict that would cause poor Eowyn just doesn't bear thinking about. Though the Aragorn vs Peter face-off would be hilarious. (Aragorn: No. Really. You're a child. Trust me on this.)

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

And that would be an advantageous alliance marriage unlike Aragorn/Arwen, hello, the elves are leaving. Well, until Susan vanishes from Narnia, then Eomer would probably be a little bummed.

Eowyn could always hook up with Lucy. *grin* Because while I don't subscribe to warrior!Lucy like a lot of the fandom (I just...don't see it), Susan and Lucy obviously know how to fight and probably do in any battle where they're on campaign, and I can see Eowyn envying them that. And while Eowyn might have a moment of going after Peter, Lucy could deter her. ("No, you don't want to fall for my brother," Queen Lucy says, laughing a little as she catches Eowyn's surreptitious look up at the dais, where the High King Peter is speaking with Theoden and Eomer. It's a friendly laugh, though, and Eowyn likes it immediately. "He never notices. He's not worth the trouble, really. Now me, on the other hand..." She winks solemnly. "Me, I'm much more approachable.")

Aragorn: No. Really. You're a child. Trust me on this.

*snickers* Peter: I may be a child to you, but at least I'm already king. Unlike some people here I could name.

(And am I wrong in thinking that, while it would probably be close, in a showdown between Peter and Aragorn, Peter would win? Because strictly going on movie evidence, Aragorn may have more experience, but I think Peter's a better fighter.)

[denorios.livejournal.com]

I want you to write this. I seriously want you to write this. I want to see Peter and Aragorn talking about being foredained kings, and Peter totally kicking Aragorn's ass about being all conflicted and angsty and he's like 'your country needs you, what the hell are you angsting for?' and them bonding over being older than they look.

Ahem. AWESOME idea.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Well, I'm thinkiing near the middle-end of the Golden Age, so Peter would be exactly as old as he looks -- mid to late twenties. (My rough estimate for Peter's age in LWW is 15-16; he reigned in Narnia for fifteen years, so he left when he was 30-31.)

What, something like this?

"I do not know those arms," Aragorn says to Theoden as Gandalf, Eomer, and the rider in the red surcoat and gold-washed silver armor approach.

"Nor do I," the King of Rohan answers.

Legolas nudges Hasufel up beside Aragorn, having collected Gimli sometime in the interim between the Rohirrim's charge down the hillside and the end of the battle, and exclaims, "By the Eldar! Do my eyes decieve me? That is the crest of the kings of Narnia; I had heard that that land had fallen into shadow and all the royal family killed."

"Narnia?" Aragorn says questioningly. "I have never heard of that land, and I have traveled much of Middle-Earth."

"This king of Narnia travels with dwarves," Gimli notes. "He has good taste."

"Hail, Eomer," Theoden says, riding forward. "And hail, Gandalf: you come in good time. But I do not know this stranger."

The redclad rider takes off his helm. He is startlingly young, with fine blond hair and bright blue eyes. "I am Peter the High King of Narnia," he says, and offers a hand.

Theoden clasps his wrist. "Well met, High King Peter. I am King Theoden of Rohan; these are my allies, Aragorn son of Arathorn of the Dunedain Rangers, Gimli son of Gloin, a dwarf of the North, and Legolas son of Thranduil, prince of the elves of Mirkwood."

"You may add one more ally, then," Peter says, nodding to Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas. "Narnia is a small land --" And here his eyes light briefly, as if in amusement, "-- but we will do what we can to aid you."

Aragorn sees the wariness flare as Theoden's back stiffens. After the great betrayal of Grima Wormtongue, the thinks that the King of the Rohirrim will not take help so easily.

"Uncle, me and mine were chased by orcs out of Rohan," Eomer says. "We crossed the pass over the mountains, and when we came down into a new land, unfamiliar to me and unmarked on all our maps, we found ourselves in the Western Waste of Narnia. The High King and his kin risked their lives to save us from orcs."

Theoden nods, still wary, and says, "Then I owe you a great debt, High King, for the lives of my men and my nephew."

"There has been too much evil done in Narnia these past years," Peter says. "I will suffer no more innocent blood to be shed while I sit at Cair Paravel. And my sister Queen Susan has grown fond of Eomer."

"I had heard that Narnia was overshadowed by a great evil," Legolas puts in.

Peter gives him an odd look. "And so it was for a hundred years of winter," he says. "But the White Witch is dead now."

[realpestilence.livejournal.com]

I think High King Peter might be moved to send some assistance to an ally, but he would be careful not to drain his own land of necessary forces; I doubt he'd go himself. Getting killed defending another dimension would be irresponsible towards his own land, unless you think he'd be pleased to hand over everything to his siblings (no matter how much he loves and trusts them, I'm thinking no.)


Movie!Legolas aggravates me as much as movie!Arwen (and movie!Susan, for that matter). Make changes in plot if you need to, but keep their characterization the same-that's who they *are*. I hate it that film-makers feel free to screw around with the characters to make them more "interesting" or palatable to modern eyes, or whatever the hell they're doing. That's *not* who these people were. Faramir! And somebody shut Sam up, ok?

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Who says it's in another dimension? Narnia could easily be part of Middle-Earth, in which case they'd be happy to fight Sauron and save the world. And we are talking about Peter here; if we go by book canon, we're talking about the guy who thinks single combat is a perfectly good way to resolve problems (Prince Caspian). And Peter has to trust his siblings; who else is going to take care of the country when he's off at war? (Going strictly by book canon, again: The Horse and His Boy, where Peter is off fighting giants while Lucy sits in Cair Paravel and Susan and Edmund are in Calormen.) I think it's pretty in-character for Peter to personally lead an army to aid an ally, whether or not his own land is threatened.

I happen to like movie!Legolas. And movie!Susan. And movie!Faramir.