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Part 1 is here.



16. The White Witch’s Narnia was larger than Caspian’s, and Peter’s was twice the size of the White Witch’s. At the end of his reign, he ruled from Harfang in the North to the mountains of Archenland in the South; from the Lone Islands in the Eastern Ocean to beyond the Western Waste in the West.

17. During the Golden Age, the countries on Narnia’s western border included Telmar, Belgarion, Shoushan, Natare, and Lasci (which was conquered by Peter about five years before the Pevensies vanished). By the time Caspian was crowned, the border had shrank so far east that Narnia no longer bordered any of those countries; instead, the Western Wild encompassed most of what had previously been Narnian land and knowledge of these countries had mostly been lost.

18. Within six months of the High King’s disappearance, everything north of the River Shribble – recently conquered giant territory – the territory of Lasci, and all island territories had declared independence. Within Narnia itself, factions began to rip the country apart – the few surviving White Witch worshippers, various groups that felt they’d been stinted by the Pevensies, those who simply wished power. There was a huge amount of pressure on the West, where the Pevensies had vanished, because it had traditionally had the greatest number of White Witch worshippers. The western nations formed a loose alliance and invaded Narnia; this is when Cair Paravel was destroyed (Tumnus and the Beavers died here). Calormene and Islander pirates attacked the eastern seaboard. This period of time lasted for roughly three hundred years, and is known as the Dying Times. Ironically, the Dying Times ended when the Telmarines entered Narnia; Telmarine attempts at wiping out native Narnians didn’t begin for another hundred years.

19. The verse that the Black Knight (Prince Rilian) speaks of in The Silver Chair is engraved on the tomb of the giant king Peter killed in single combat the year he vanished.

20. Lucy adjusted to leaving Narnia the best. Peter adjusted the worst.

21. After his sword, Peter’s favorite weapons are a pair of axes gifted to him by a dwarf clan in the North. Susan favors her bow, Edmund his sword. Lucy prefers a pair of long-bladed daggers.

22. Lucy has the fewest memories of Narnia, and most of her clearest memories are from her time with Caspian, not her own reign. In contrast, Peter remembers almost everything from both his times in Narnia; he remembers Narnia better than he does his life in England before Narnia.

23. Peter gets really, dreadfully, horribly seasick, and even Lucy’s cordial doesn’t help.

24. Edmund had an illegitimate daughter in Narnia – she would have been about three when the Pevensies vanished – and when he came back in Caspian’s time, he did his best to find out what happened to her and her mother, even though it was nearly impossible to trace individual records. He later found out they’d been murdered by one of the radical groups that rose up during the early days of the Dying Times. (His daughter’s mother was a very nice woman, and she and Edmund never married for a number of reasons. One was that it was politically advisable to keep him available as long as possible. Another was that, as she kindly told him, if they got married they’d probably hate each other within days, and Edmund would join Peter in never being at Cair Paravel. The third was that she was already married. But they were very fond of each other, and good friends.)

25. Peter carried out all his own executions by public beheading. If he wasn’t available, Edmund would do it, but that was fairly rare, since Peter’s preference was to take responsibility. If neither one was available, Susan or Lucy both knew they’d be expected to do so. Susan never had to, but Lucy did once. She was sick afterwards, but only because she hadn’t cut through the neck on the first swing and it took her three to completely do so.

26. There’s very little Narnian history remaining from before the Long Winter. The White Witch destroyed all literature and cultural artifacts she could get her hands on, and ruthlessly punished any oral exchange of Narnian legends and history. Any community leaders were killed; the few that survived were turned into stone. (A number of these later became ringleaders in several attempts to overthrow the Pevensies and were executed by Peter.)

27. Being able to mend one’s own clothes generally being a useful skill during campaign season, both Peter and Edmund can knit and sew. They can actually do so better than Lucy and Susan, who never had to do much of either.

28. Despite Peter’s very public declaration that he and Susan would never be able to return to Narnia, there are three schools of thought regarding his return: one, that Peter the High King will return at the end of the world; two, that should the House of Caspian the Telmarine ever do wrong by Narnia, then Peter the High King shall return and set it right; and three, that should any true Narnian call upon Peter the High King in any time of genuine need, then the High King will return and the word of Aslan be damned.

29. The Magician’s Nephew is a creation myth. The Last Battle is a destruction/apocalypse myth.

30. The Narnian Royal Guard is primarily made up of great cats (leopards, tigers, wildcats, jaguars, and the like).

31. After they return to England (both times), there is something subtly off about the Pevensies. Speech patterns, body language, references – some of them are better at adjusting to “1940s British pre-teen/teenager” than others; it’s easier for Lucy and Edmund than it is for Susan and Peter. Susan makes a conscious effort to adjust and very nearly (though not quite) manages it. Peter never does; it’s one of the reasons he has very few friends outside of his immediate family. And he never did manage to relearn how to listen to his parents; they’re just as disturbed by him (on a subtle level) as his classmates are, even though they’d never say it.

32. After they came back from Narnia the first time, Peter used to break into Professor Kirke’s liquor cabinet and get drunk. Susan and Edmund joined him a few times, and they used to sit around discussing the War and what they would have done or would be doing differently, if they were in charge. This ended when Mrs. Macready caught Peter and bawled him out for it.

33. All four of the Pevensies have carried out assassinations of various types (foreign dignitary, foreign leader, bandit lord, etc.) at various times. Plain brown arrows out of nowhere. Knives in the back. Poison in wine. Unfortunate falls during hunts. Lucy was best at it, but Peter preferred to do it when it had to be done.

34. Caspian was raised with the belief that he would grow up and rule Narnia, but he was trained and educated in everything except two things: ruling a country and commanding an army.

35. Peter, Susan, and Lucy can hold their liquor. Edmund can’t.

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Date: 2008-07-11 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
INTERESTING. :D

I love how some of them are large facts that fill in the gaping holes of Narnian history, and some of them are just little things, like #35. (I guess #33 would be a sort of little thing) I am extremely interested in how Lucy is the best at assassinations (likely because people underestimate her, etc.). Care to elaborate?

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Date: 2008-07-12 01:04 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
I think that Lucy had fewer morals than the others -- not that she was necessarily immoral or amoral, but that, unlike the others, she grew up in Narnia, and it had a bigger impact on her than England did. (At least for me, this is also fleeting; she's not as affected by Narnia upon returning to England as the others are.) She doesn't quite have the same concepts of right and wrong as Peter and Susan, and to a lesser extent, Edmund. So it's slightly more like a game to her than as a great and necessary evil, which is how the others tend to think of it most of the time. (Sometimes, though, Peter's mood toward the assassinations is, "Oh, thank God, somebody got to kill the bastard and I'm glad it was me." But Peter generally prefers open battle because that's how he is.) Susan finds it distasteful on principle, while Edmund looks at it more like Lucy does, but not with quite the same sense of, "Well, this is how the world is."

And I mean, yeah, she's underestimated all the time. Sweet-faced little Lucy, who manages to look like she doesn't have a brain in her pretty little head? Susan grows up to be the kind of beautiful that's dangerous, and she has a reputation in politics, if not necessarily in warfare, but Lucy? Nobody thinks that Lucy's going to be the one to drop poison in your tea while she's babbling on about the summer festival.

I seriously have to write the Lasci story, because it's everyone being awesome all the time, including Lucy.

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Date: 2008-07-12 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
That makes a lot of sense, now that I come to think about it.

~And yeah, Lucy comes off as a sunny little girl who is the very picture of innocence, so no one would ever suspect her to poison anyone else.

You need to write that Lasci story, I want to see it! ♥

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Date: 2008-07-12 06:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
Lucy is one of the hardest of the four for me to get a hold on, just because we don't really see that much of her in the movies -- writing Golden Age, it's pretty much guess and go, since she's not as clearly Queen Lucy in PC as the others are. One of my major characterization points for grownup Lucy is the White Witch scene in PC, where she draws her dagger and goes for Nikabrik like it's the most natural thing in the world. And, of course, Lucy grew up as a queen. She doesn't have the same points of distance as the others. She has them -- but they're not the same, so she's more "Narnian" than the others. And she is happy and fun-loving and more than fond of hard drinking and sleeping around, but that doesn't mean she can't kill when necessary. I think she's more likely than the others to see the fun in fighting for practice; for the others, even when they're sparring with each other, it's always training for war.

The Lasci story will be bundles of awesome if I write. Peter mysteriously goes missing while on a diplomatic mission! Edmund and Lucy sent to take his place and find him! Susan trying to pull diplomatic tricks out of a hat! Narnia at the edge of war!

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Date: 2008-07-12 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
Now that is by far the most thoroughly characterized Lucy I have ever seen. *grumbles at disposing of her Lucy icon*

It sounds like it will be bundles of awesome to read! Good luck with it!

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Date: 2008-07-12 07:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
Of course, I haven't actually written much Lucy, so we'll see how she actually turns out in practice. *grin*

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Date: 2008-07-12 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lassiterfics.livejournal.com
These are like fanfic all on their own, like little drabbles! <3
This grittier Lucy is hot. LOLawesome at 27 and HAAAAAAAAAAAA at 34. Man, the world just shits all over Caspian.

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Date: 2008-07-12 09:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
I do not believe in sweet innocent little Lucy. I believe in a Lucy who can outdrink dwarves, outfight centaurs, and just generally kick ass. And afterwards, go straight to a midnight dance with the fauns and laugh and have fun and get laid.

If it wasn't for bad luck, Caspian would have no luck at all. (All evidence to the contrary, I actually do like him; he's just so far in over his head that it's hilarious.)

These are so much fun to do; I'm glad you like them. *grin*

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Date: 2008-07-12 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lassiterfics.livejournal.com
Ya, poor guy! No wonder half the fandom is woobifying him!
I've been reading these fics that reference Aslan breathing on people and they automatically feel better. It is like drugs! (Aslan's Country also sounds like drugs.) Caspian could use some of that stuff in a bottle.

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Date: 2008-07-12 11:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
...damn fandom anyway. *grin* Meanwhile, my Peter stares at him and goes, "I will beat him to death with a shovel."

Unfortunately, that bit is canon. *sigh* Aslan = deus ex machina.

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Date: 2008-07-18 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swift-tales.livejournal.com
I am absolutely loving all of this. I really need to start thinking deeper into the books I read and the films I see. ^^
Would you mind if I friended you?

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Date: 2008-07-18 08:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bedlamsbard.livejournal.com
Friend away! I don't mind at all.

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Date: 2008-09-20 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caramelsilver.livejournal.com
This is so great. I especially like the little factoids. Like Edmund can't hold his liquor. (I disagree, I think Ed can drink anyone under the table... Susan on the other hand...) I can totally see how your Lucy is best at assassination. She'll smile and tell you all about her day with the fauns while putting poison in your drink or stab you in the back.

32= <3

Peter and Edmund can knit!! That's quite a picture. Them sitting in the tent, just came back from a battle and they need to fix the hole in their socks! haahaaha!

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Date: 2009-01-17 05:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deepad
There's more logical (and realistic) world building in these 35 points than in the entire 7 books. I am having so much fun reading this verse!

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Date: 2009-03-02 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storm-of-roses.livejournal.com
Your 'verse is the best, most logical, COOLEST narnia verse I have ever had the good fortune to encounter. Might take me awhile to read through all the fic, though.

the books make nOOOOOO logical sense after reading this thread. sigh.

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