*vaguely bemused*

[bedlamsbard]

Because I wanted a look at the Narnian army, I watched the second half of LWW.

* Dude, the personalized horn calls are so totally canon.

* Susan's quiver has her initials on the back of it.

* ...I think the phoenix shall have gone extinct by Caspian's time.

* There are warthogs in the Narnian army.

* Okay, good. Movieverse canon gives a distinction between fauns and satyrs: they're different species entirely.

* Heh, mastiff.

* This Narnian army is about twice to three times the size of Caspian's army.

* Peter going for his sword when the dryad comes in! Oh, hell yes.

* Each of the Pevensies' thrones has a symbol carved on it. Edmund and Peter both have swords, I think, though different ones, Susan has a horn, and Lucy has her cordial.

* Huh, Aslan does say the "once a king or queen in Narnia, always a king or queen in Narnia" line. For some reason I thought he hadn't done so.

* *flails* Oh my God, Peter. Hack and bash indeed. And he's good -- he's very, very good.

* Griffins! And leopards! And the White Witch has white tigers! (Narnian Royal Guard! I love them so much, as non-canon as they are. Favorite OCs ever.)

* Okay, so the Stone Table, by PC, is in the How. Is the How built around the Stone Table? And if so, what the hell are the ruins outside the How? Were they built after the How?

* The White Witch's eyes are dead-black in the sacrifice scene, but when she and Peter are fighting, they're hazel.

* The actors who play the elder Pevensies are not my elder Pevensies. (I actually go back and forth on whether my older Peter has a beard or not -- I'd rather he be clean-shaven, but that's just my shallow side talking.)

* *thoughtfully* Cair Paravel doesn't look very defensible, but it faces the sea. (And by PC it's on an island, of course.)

* Mermaids! I'd nearly forgotten there were mermaids.

* Beavers in armor look so weird.

* Seriously, Peter.



Look, I didn't say they were the most coherent thoughts in the world.

Comments

[realpestilence.livejournal.com]

It's been too long since I've seen this, so I can't really engage...until I get my speakers working and whatnot. *sulks*


However, I'm surprised to hear about the fauns and satyrs being different species. I didn't recall that at all. It would explain the desexifying of the fauns, then-it's the satyrs who're the naughty ones. *coughs*

I wonder why the griffins only appear in battle. I don't remember ever seeing one just hanging out, only flying and carrying a warrior.

Damn. I really need to see this again.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Yeah, in the movies the satyrs are basically minotaurs with goat heads instead of bull heads. Whatever! New species to have in my stories! (I wasn't sure.)

They've progressed by PC. In LWW they're dropping rocks and getting turned into stone. (There is totally a griffin in "In Constellated Wars," because griffins are awesome.)

[realpestilence.livejournal.com]

Oh, I remember that now. Very clumsy-looking by comparison to what they're doing with the effects now.

There should be more "aerial" types...there'd have to be Talking Eagles, Osprey, Falcons, etc. Big birds that may or may not be able to carry fighters, but who are some damn good fighters in their own right, and fast, too.

And how about Talking Hummingbirds, for messengers? They're so small they're extremely hard to see in flight; they can hide easily in just about any place; and they can travel incredible distances quickly.

Size is good for some things, but Reepicheep and his folk prove that you don't need to be big to be quite effective. \o/

[mentalhygiene.livejournal.com]

As I understand -- birds can be really, really hard to animate effectively and believably. (anything is, really, but birds. D: ) That's probably why they don't do as many "aerial" animals.

[mentalhygiene.livejournal.com]

I think in the books, and in the BBC movies, Aslan's line is "Once a king or queen in Narnia, always a king or queen." period -- which seems to be part of the allegory, and part of 'once you know and are part of Aslan's kingdom in Narnia, you will be part of Aslan's (god's) kingdom everywhere".

Fauns and Satyrs are separate in most mythologies, if I recall right ... but they both generally look the same. Fauns are typically the "forest spirit" kind of things, but Satyrs are more associated with Dionysus and drunken revelry and being horny and sinful and all that good stuff.

I was never clear on the How... according to Wikipedia: The word "How" derives from the Old Norse haugr, meaning hill. In England, it is a common synonym for a barrow, or earthen burial-mound. and that someone, Lewis does not explain who, would have built the mound around the stone table.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

*checks* Huh, you're right. It's Professor Kirke who says, "Once a King in Narnia, always a King in Narnia." Although now I don't remember what the movie said, and I just watched it.

*thoughtfully* Well, there are thirteen hundred years between LWW and PC.

[mentalhygiene.livejournal.com]

I remember in the BBC movie, Aslan says it during the coronation as well. Do not remember the Disney/Walden LWW, though. (and here I was just at the library yesterday. I could have gotten the books out.)

Wiki suggests "superstitious Telmarines".

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

so basically the satyrs are the ones who went off to get drunk and have sex regularly? I now have images of Lucy looking at the wineskin, looking at Mr Tumnus and going 'hmmmm'.

It's fairly clear in the books that the Narnians built the mound over the Table, especially what with the cave paintings. Not actually explained why - i'm pondering if they did it to hide it from the invaders.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Maybe so. Or maybe it was some way to revere it? I got nothin'.

[mentalhygiene.livejournal.com]

Yep, that'd be them. And oh, I've seen Lucy/Tumnus before. (sorry bedlam, but I have.)

Ah, okay, I haven't read the books in a long time. Maybe to hide it, maybe, if it's implied as a "burial mound" -- they built it when it became clear that the Kings and Queens and/or Aslan were not coming back. A symbolic burial?

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

One line I always love in the book? the bit about the pictures being old, but we're older. (I think it's Lucy or Edmund who says it)

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

*checks* It's Edmund.

And I completely blame the cave art for getting me into this fandom.

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

er. talking of the book... the film doesn't include the werewolf biting Caspian. I checked. :mutters: I want the possibility of werewolf!Caspian. Though we don't know if they can transfer it by bite in Narnia.

[lassiterfics.livejournal.com]

Elder Susan, though. "What was it you said, Ed? 'You girls stay in the castle and I'll bring back the stag myself!' HA." Gentle, my ass. But she seems to fit with your Warrior Queen Susan thingie. Someone compared elder Peter to the Burger King mascot, which brings about all sorts of awesome in my head. And when I imagine elder Edmund, I mostly imagine PCSkandar!Edmund still, except... aged up? 'Cos I like that face! OMG HURRY UP DAWN TREADER MOVIE omg i want it

Peter going for his sword when the dryad comes in!
I TOLD YOU.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

The girls' characterization I have no problem with. Elder Peter, though...that ain't my Peter.

*crosses fingers* Please don't screw up Voyage, please don't screw up Voyage -- as I have said a thousand times in various tones of worry, the director is leaving. WHY ADAMSON WHY?

I KNOW YOU DID. *grin* I looked for it!

[lassiterfics.livejournal.com]

I'm going to save skepticism for now. After all, the movie of Prisoners of Azkaban was enjoyable. (As far as triquels go, let us not mention X3!)
Hmm, I don't recognize the other stuff Michael Apted has done, except 'Gorillas in the Mist' and 'Nell'. And I watched those years ago but I reckon they were alright, and if he chooses to make compelling movies about gorillas and feral children, then Dufflepuds and dragons should be a breeze... right?

[reni-m.livejournal.com]

Yeah, the thrones do have different symbols for each monarch.
http://www.narniaweb.com/gall/5884.jpg
It appears that Edmund's is a sword breaking a wand. Now, my question is how did whoever built the thrones know that he was going to smash a wand.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Where was that picture when I was looking for it? *sulks briefly*

...this is the point where we don't want to go into my Cair Paravel conspiracy theory.

[reni-m.livejournal.com]

My pleasure to help you find the photos you need!

Well, after reading your Caspian theory I am a tad interested as to what your Cair Paravel theory contains. But we don't have to go there quite yet!

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

I always take it as the coronation taking place a good several weeks later - time to clean up the castle that no-one's lived in for a good hundred years at the minimum, which'll include a lot of repairs. it's bad enough cleaning up a single room that hasn't been touched in a year, let alone an entire neglected castle.

Thrones got carved as part of the repairs.

[swift-tales.livejournal.com]

LWW is pretty awesome.... And so are some of these thoughts...

Also, every time I see this movie and I see the scene where in the battle Aslan attacks the white witch I always catch myself thinking: he ATE her face!

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

She just vanishes! I want to know what he did.

[swift-tales.livejournal.com]

Well, I think that... when Aslan turns away to look at Peter, in the bit where Peter is in slow motion but the rest is moving really fast... You can actually see a small bit of her body behind him. So that's another thing to support "he ate her face" theory... Although I could be mistaken. I can't quite remember what happened to her in the books.

[katakokk.livejournal.com]

But you can't deny that the way they pan up towards the Cair after Beruna is absolutely GORGEOUS. Defensible or not, it's a beautiful castle.

NARNIAN ROYAL GUARD. I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE IN HONORARY CANON.

I always assumed the ORIGINAL Stone Table (just the TABLE part of it, not the whole shebang) was INSIDE the How, and the How is built over and around it. Remember how there are Stonehenge-esque pillars and stuff around the place? That's probably what the ruins are outside of the How.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Oh, yeah, definitely beautiful. Too bad someone knocked it down.

I love the Narnian Royal Guard! They are so completely awesome -- my favorite OCs. It's a pity "Till Human Voices Wake Us" beat me up and spat me out, because the guard there was awesome. Oh, Louhanna, sorry for the whole...death thing.