this is getting ridiculous

[bedlamsbard]

Okay, whoever made girl!Caspian -- I'm going very tentatively with Caspania for a name here, which is a little ridiculous but doesn't bother me as much as some of the other options -- crawl into my brain, you are a dead woman.

We are not getting a return of the Petaverse incident here (seventy thousand words), I just warn you. Just because I have a (vague) plot and some more character info does not mean I'm going to become known as the girl who's always writing genderfuck PC revisionism.

Sort of interestingly, Peter and Caspania aren't on the shaggin' wagon the way Peta and Caspian are. Caspania's a virgin until the wedding night. "My maidenhead's the only thing I have left!" she screams at Peter. "Without that I'm worthless, I'm just --" "No, you're not," Peter says, and kisses her. And then there's some more arguing and some political talk, and then Peter kisses her forehead and puts a ring with the lion rampant on it into her hand before leaving.

AND THEN. There is a lot of Telmarine political stuff! Because, like, the Seven Noble Lords of Narnia, the ones they go looking for in VotDT? Still in Narnia. Because Miraz doesn't have a reason to send them away; he's the legitimate heir. But they rally around Caspania and her new betrothed, and the Narnians are there for their High King, and Miraz is sort of freaking out. (Probably with good reason.)

Also, the wedding is at Lord Bern's manor.

And possibly Susan and Edmund are fucking. *facepalm*

ETA: ...great, now I want Susan/Caspania. (And you have to admit that Peta/Caspania would be SMOKING HOT. Though not as smoking hot as PETA/SUSAN. No, I don't know what's up with the femmeslash today.)

ETA2: Now Peter, Susan, and Caspania are all in a relationship? Together? Sort of? OH MY GOD WHAT. This is like a bad romance novel!

ETA3: ...possibly solely for the line, during some assassination attempt by Miraz, "Cuckolding your queen in her own bedchamber, King Peter?" "That's my wife," Peter says. "That's my queen." And Susan shoots him. Or something. OH MY GOD WHAT.

Comments

[katakokk.livejournal.com]

Hahahah, but...didn't bad things happen when Peter tried to get married? XD

LOL, I love your girl!Caspian. Much better than normal Caspian.

And to quote Cornelius, Miraz has "good reason to be nervous."

...How on earth did Susan and Edmund randomly start fucking?

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

The first seven times! Maybe the eighth time's the charm?

She's a gently-reared noblewoman who's got nothing left to lose! And she's a little more observant than Caspian, and a little cleverer -- she has to be. But I'm quite fond of Caspian, too. (Well, Water!Caspian more so than canon!Caspian.)

This time, the Pevensies are taking over Narnia from the inside. They may well be able to produce a bigger force on the battlefield than Miraz -- if they can get the Narnians and the Telmarines to work togethe.r

I HAVE NO IDEA.

[duchessa.livejournal.com]

...you just had to put incest in there somewhere, did you.
Not that I mind. XD I didn't think I would ship Peter/girl!Caspian, but your description of them is sweet.
No bloodshed though? That's new. I wonder how Peter will cope.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

I mean, there may not be, I'm just still back here with WTF IS GOING ON I DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

I'm just not actually sure they're in love with each other -- I mean, eventually, but it's more of a business arrangement -- a political marriage. Passion comes later.

Well, there is a war on, there's still plenty of fighting.

[xianghua.livejournal.com]

I'm amused at how parallel our thoughts are apparently running. ;P I came up with Cassilda though- caspiana just doesn't LOOK right. :P

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Caspania, without the earlier "i", which still doesn't look right -- I'm still trying to keep the "p", but whatever, oh my god.

Cassilda makes me think of Marion Zimmer Bradley.

OH MY GOD IT JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE.

[xianghua.livejournal.com]

Oh dammit. I hate it when I inadvertantly do shit like that. I liked it before, too.

Caspania just looks too... ick. I don't know. I think it's the sort of Victorian-Latin ending on a feminine name that doesn't fit with the ending of the masculine form. (Like Fionn /= Fiona prior to 19th c. romanticized Celtic stuff.)

[xianghua.livejournal.com]

Also, I am TRAUMATIZED FOR LIFE FROM WRITING FANFIC at work. My boss was reading over my shoulder.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Caspianada? Caspania still makes me think of a country.

Caspialla? Caspianelle?

Okay, this is getting ridiculous.

[xianghua.livejournal.com]

I've come up with Caspina and Caspia.

I wish I could just write snippets from here and there like you do, but I seem to get lost if I don't stay sequential. Will post the bit I have later. :P

[elucreh.livejournal.com]

I love how watching your writing process is basically the same thing as watching somebody try to stay on a bucking Bronco.

Caspia?

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

I am not actually writing this. And I know that tends to be a death sentence for my non-writing, but still -- I mean, I have about two and a half paragraphs of Peter and girl!Caspian's wedding night, and it's awkward.

Caspielle? Cassiana? Although that drops the "p".

[deepad]

Caspienne? Caspiani? Caspianara?

(Incest is still a squick for me, so I would love to read this as a Susan totally being affectionate and in love with her for herself, while Peter is being a political mastermind about the whole thing.)

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Caspial? Caspanismia?

I have...no idea what kind of game Susan is playing with girl!Caspian. And I think there's some kind of weird competition here between the two, but I have no idea what. Possibly girl!Caspian thinks that Susan isn't feminine enough or something, I don't know -- she's a little stuck up, about being, you know, the princess.

[deepad]

Ahahaha. All the name options made me think, 'well, what if she was just Caspian?', which then made me think, supposed she was passing as a boy the whole time, because her mom knew that was the only way to save the throne from Miraz. And then when she met the Pevensies she had to play a boy playing a girl for some reason so she went ultra-femme about it, and looked like an ass... clearly, I have read As You Like It once too often. :)

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

See, originally she was just Caspian, but then I had characterization problems -- it trips me up when two very different characters have the same name.

[deepad]

Call her Cas as short form for a name we only know is referenced off-stage, and have done with it. :)
You could even have the all-mighty Peter not knowing what her full name was, and being distracted by her during the contract-signing or troth-plighting or whatever as an in-joke.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Which might work out slightly better if it wasn't told from Caspian's POV. Why? I have no idea.

Interestingly, though, I did Peta from Caspian's POV but Edwina from Edwina's.

[caramelsilver.livejournal.com]

Well you do have the gift of making a story (which you are not writing) sound very interesting:P

I was thinking, how about Cassiopeia? (Too far away from Caspian?)

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

I am actually not writing this one; it's not like Water, where I was originally writing snippets and interested in it, or Dust, which hit a lot of my kinks and which sort of grew. I actually have very little interest in writing this, because it's more politics, less worldbuilding (except in recovering ground that's more or less covered in Water), less sex, and less action.

Too many connotations. I'm a classical studies student, I know from Greek mythology. *faces*

[caramelsilver.livejournal.com]

Sure, I'm just saying it's fun to see how you can make a story sound very interesting with only a few bare facts. Obviously I enjoy reading about your writing process or else I wouldn't follow your journal, would I?

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

And that is very flattering! *flaps hands* I'm just in a mood, is all.

[redangel618.livejournal.com]

Caspianna? you know i've read a fantasy novel where the protagonist was a female prince because only princes could inherit and the king died in battle shortly after she was born. by that i mean the king was off fighting a war when the girl was born and severely outnumbered and sent back a letter congratulating the queen on the birth of the prince and heir. the lords were behind it but the other countries were not buying it. what did i do with that book?

girl!caspian could be a master of womanly arts. espionage. poisoning. convincing men to do what you want without actually promising anything. horse riding. falconry. spinning. sewing. embroidery. knives at close quarters. short bow. fan with sharpened edge. strangling people with a shawl. dancing. drafting dress patterns.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

The thing is that Cas is very much a gently-reared nobly born lady. That's what she knows. She's also got a surprising awareness of Telmarine politics, and she can ride and she can shoot and she can do fancy embroidery and dance and flirt (by Telmarine standards); she can do everything she should do. Which, sure, great, isn't that fabulous; now she's completely out of her element. Which can also be interesting, but I'm not interested.

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

the political marriage thing is most interesting. Because, like you said, Peter's bi but more interested in blokes - boy!Caspain was easy since we all saw the film, but girl!Caspian, what with being raised as a genteel girl (albeit one who knows how to shoot crossbows) just doesn't seem to be his type.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Yes, exactly, which is one of my major issues with this. Peter does sleep with women -- occasionally. Very occasionally. There's got to be a certain something there, and girl!Caspian doesn't really have it. Sure, she's a great noblewoman -- but that's not what he likes. Like, Peter/Susan is one of the few times I can see him being in a relationship with a girl just because, well, Susan -- they're more or less on an equal standing, at least in Peter's eyes. Girl!Caspian...not so much.

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

well, it would be interesting to see. Caspian and Susan as a political marriage work (attraction, her highly developed bullshit detector, the fact she can flatten him whenever she chooses), but Peter and Girl!Caspian... er. I can see her getting on with Susan well, court and politics, since that's what she's been raised for, and would probably lessen the amount of political incidents Peter creates, but having even the remotest hope of understanding each other?

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

I think they might be able to manage a functional partnership and friendship, but I just can't see them having any kind of spark romantically. The closest I can see is a loose Peter/Susan/Cas, where there's a lot of healthy respect and occasionally they do sleep together, but just straight Peter/Cas? Not so much.

This would be the story that highlights the fact that Peter actually does have diplomatic skills; he simply chooses not to exercise them most of the time.

[kit-ana.livejournal.com]

I like the sound of Caspiana (pronounced Caspi-ah-na). You really do have to write this, it looks brilliant.

Introducing myself because the fact that I'm checking your journal several times a day looking for fic updates strikes me as a little stalkerish. :p I'm Kit and you've managed to re-kindle my Narnia love.

You're an absolutely amazing writer, btw and watching your thought process as you write is every bit as entertaining as the stories themselves.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Thank you very much! That's quite a compliment.

Chances are that I won't write this, if only because it's not the kind of story I'm interested in telling, and also a little bit because one genderfuck PC revisionist fic is enough. Also because I know my brain; it would grow into a monster, and I seriously don't need another novel-length. But it's fun to play with!

[kit-ana.livejournal.com]

You're welcome. It really is a delight to watch you write, especially when you have been bitten by a bunny you evidently have no intention of allowing to actually reach the page.

There is never enough genderfuck revisionist fic. :p Even if you don't write the whole fic, I love the glimpses you're giving us.

[katakokk.livejournal.com]

Wait, when Peter says "that's my wife" and "that's my queen," is he referring to two different people?

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

yup. susan is Queen no matter what, and all the Pevensies would out-rank anyone they married due to the whole 'invested by Aslan' and 'High King of Narnia over all other Kings and Queens of narnia' deal they've got going. Anyone they married would become consort. so Peter would really only think of anyone he married (in this case, girl!Caspian) as his wife.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

What burntcopper said.

[almostinstinct.livejournal.com]

ETA3: LOLOLOLOL Leto and Ghanima much? YAY!

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Okay, I had to Google that, because I am not down with my sci-fi lit.

[almostinstinct.livejournal.com]

In the very last scene of Children of Dune, Ghanima's all, yeah, I'll marry this random prince, but I will not love him. He's might be my husband, but Leto's my love. It's a callback to their parents: their father couldn't marry the woman he loved, so she became his concubine while he married a princess.

Um. I think I just confused you more. Watch Children of Dune, it has James McAvoy being incestous with his twin sister. No, seriously.

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

Those are, like, the magic words to get me to watch (or read!) anything. I mean, I watched Flowers in the Attic for that. (Well, not James McAvoy.)

[almostinstinct.livejournal.com]

"I shall go against every Fremen precept, they will accept it because they can do nothing else. I kept you here under the lure of betrothal, but there will be no betrothal of you and Ghanima. My sister will marry me."

And the only reason they need the other guy is because LETO CAN'T IMPREGNATE GHANIMA. THEY'RE BRINGING HIM IN FOR HIS SPERM.

I wish I was joking. :p

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

OH MY GOD.

I have never read Dune, actually. (Well, to be fair, I haven't read most well-known sci-fi.)

[westingturtle.livejournal.com]

Well, on the bright side Peter seems nicer here, so you would have slightly less in the way of psychopathic behavior.

Also, as your gently bread Cas(whatever), how freaked out would she be with Susan coming on to her?

[bedlamsbard.livejournal.com]

On the other hand, the last thing I wrote in this 'verse was just plain painful, what with Peter coming in late after sleeping with someone else, and Cas going, "If I do this, maybe he won't --"

Not so much, I think -- Susan can be subtle, and Cas is a lot more comfortable with her than she is with Peter or Edmund. And there may be some tradition of that sort of thing among the Telmarine women.