yes, yes, they're all so screwed, carry on

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Stop the presses! Caspian has managed to learn that the world does not revolve around him. *is shocked*

This would be an interesting story to tell from two POVs, except I swore I'd never do that again after "In Constellated Wars." But still...

*sigh* Actually, to get the transitory aspect of the Caspian of "In Constellaed Wars" and the Caspian of "Once More for the Ages" that y'all keep asking for, I probably would have to do this from Caspian's POV, because all we're getting now is Edmund going, "Good, he's not so annoying, maybe I won't have to kill him and call it an accident after all," and cutting himself open (for, uh, unrelated reasons).

Look, see?

“The High King is in Narnia,” Caspian insists, and keeps talking even when the nix hits him again, spitting the words out along with blood and a shard of broken tooth. “The High King is at Aslan’s How, answering the call of Queen Susan’s horn. Peter of Narnia is here.”

“Lying Telmarine bastard!” the nix declares as Edmund revises his opinion of Caspian substantially.

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I think "In Constellated Wars" destroyed my ability to write normal fic for a while. After that it was all exposition, crack, and porn. *sigh*

Ficlet bit coming! At some point in the near future.

Well, I'm not really sure about Peta and the Peterverse Pevensies, mostly because I haven't quite worked out the timeline for that yet. I know that there is a situation that prompts Peta and Susan into liking and trusting each other. Initially Susan's pretty hesitant about the whole thing for book canon reasons; she's trying to move on, she's not really sure about this crazy chick that Peter married, etc. and so forth. After all, it's not really that easy to accept that your brother, the crazy one who used to be High King and hello, mostly sleeps with men, although recently not with anyone, and just came back from WWII, married a female version of himself from another world. But there's some mutual understanding there eventually.

By the time Peta meets Peter's Edmund, she and her Edmund haven't slept together for the better part of twenty years; she was married to Caspian, after all. She's probably likely to drop that bombshell at some point, but it's not really an issue. On the other hand, Edmund's deeply suspicious of Peta, probably for good reason.

I am filling in gaping (or just there) plot holes. It makes me happy. Or, well, in this case it depresses me horribly, but that has less to do with the movie and more to do with what I'm writing.

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Hahahahaha, it actually didn't realize that until you pointed that out. Oh "In Constellated Wars" we owe you so much.

Yeah, I guess it makes sense for them to be really "WTF!" about the whole thing but I can definatly see Susan trusting Peta before Edmund does. So, does this mean that Susan ends up going to the Stepford Country, as well? Or does "Be Like Water" transition into Immortal!Susan fic? I imagine going back to Narnia again, and not only her Narnia but an alternate universe of her Caspian's Narnia, would leave her pretty pissed or screwed up and she might even be more likely to not end up in Stepford Country. *ponders*

Also, can I add that it makes me really happy that they slept together, like, by choice? Peter/Edmund(/Narnia) really losses alot of its hotness becasue of all the creepy, but Peta/Edmund, omg, I think my brain just exploded from all the hotness. I really want to read them now? *headdesk*

Oh, I can just imagine that scene, and I am loling all over the place.
Edmund: We did what?
Peta: Oh, stop being so dramatic, Edmund.

Is it bad that when I went and saw PC (again) last night, I spent the whole time going "This is where Edmund gets drunk," and "After this is the assasination attempt," and "Here is where Caspain and Edmund go get the armor," and "Then Caspain and Peter makeout." Also, when does the Peter/Narnia(/Edmund) scene happen in PC? I put it after the council of war but before the raid. *shrugs*

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"Be Like Water" uses Warsverse background, but I don't really consider it Warsverse canon. I suppose it's one way events could go post-PC, with immortal!Susan another one. And it does AU book canon -- I mean, even beyond, uh, the Peta part. I think I'm going to end it with the implication that Peter, the Pevensies, and Jill and Eustace are going to be trapped wandering from Narnia to Narnia forever.

*bemused* Peta/Edmund and Peta/Narnia is a lot less screwed up than Peter/Narnia(/Edmund) because Peta's connection with Narnia isn't as strong as Peter's is, for a couple of reasons. Narnia doesn't have as strong a hold over her as she does over Peter; Peta's not in love with Narnia.

Sometimes I think I write stuff just for the snark.
Peter: You slept with Edmund?
Peta: What, didn't you?
Peter: Edmund slept with you?
Peta: Well, you did.
Peter: That's different! I wasn't...her.
Peta: Well, neither was he.
Edmund: Oh my God.

Aw. *is touched* The Peter/Edmund(/Narnia) would take place right after "The Bone's Prayer", which is when Caspian and Edmund go off to Cair Paravel to get the armor.

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I really like that idea, even though it is, like, indcredibly depressing, if you really think about it. And I didn't realize that Jill and Eustace were be in "Be Like Water," too. I'd seen you mention it before but didn't realize it was finalized. I really don't remember the two of them that well, but I'm afraid to re-read the books becasue I have an elaborate theory about the relationships between books and movies and what re-reading books does for my brian.

So, when you say Peta/Narnia is there any sort of physical relationship (like Peter/Narnia(/Edmund) but not as bad or not with Edmund) or is it all theory? Did they have any sort of bond beyond the initial bonding (like a less intense version of the earth bond)? Is Narnia ever in Peta's head? Also, does Peta's Narnia and Peter have a stronger bond than Peta and Peta's Narnia? Does Peta's Narnia fall in love with Peter? Wow, now I am imagining Peter'sNarnia/Peter/Peta'sNarnia love triangle or even worse Peter'sNarnia/Peter/Edmund/Peta'sNarnia/Peta love pentagon. There are so many combinations of this, like if Peta's Narnia likes Peter better, we have Peter/Peta'sNarnia/Peta, and then we'll obviously have Peter/Peta'sNarnia(/Edmund). omg, my brain.

The snark (mostly the sibling snark) you write, is my favorite of yours. It never stops being funny, like, I just read "Ere Yet We Lose The Legions" again and the snark still made me really happy. I just feel like you really get them. And it are hilarious to boot.

Oh, that makes sense. So "The Bones Prayer" happens after "In Constelated Wars" but before Peter is being all emo while staring at a gaint picture of Aslan at the How? Does anything else of importance happen between "In Constelated Wars" and "The Bones Prayer"?

Just curious, but do Edmund and Peter ever sleep with eachother other than Peter/Narnia(/Edmund) or Edmund/WhiteWitch(/Peter)? I just find it interesting that Peta and Edmund get together outside of creepy love triangles but Peter and Edmund don't. But then again, with all the creepy Peter/Narnia(/Edmund) going on, I don't think they'd really want to have sex outside of that. I wonder if there was no earth bond if they would have the same kind of relationship that Peta and Edmund have. *ponders*

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Well, nothing's really finalized yet -- aside from the porn and a couple of comment scenes, there's only about a thousand words of the story written, where Caspian and the Pevensies first meet in the woods. And it's not really necessary to have Eustace and Jill there, just that in the Peterverse timeline this would take place after VotDT and SC and it makes logical sense for them to be there. Although they're going to be shocked, because this is the first time that they're really going to see High King Peter and Queen Susan in action...

There is, but I think (and I could be wrong, because I don't really think about Golden Age Peta all that much) that it was only the one time. And Peta not being Peter, Narnia doesn't tend towards full-out possession. The Peta/Narnia bond is a much healthier bond than the Peter/Narnia bond -- I think the strength of the Peter/Narnia bond was what Narnia needed at the time, but Peta was a lot more opposed to it than Peter was, and so the bond turned into what would have been a healthy bond during a healthy period in Narnian history. (So Peta's Narnia, during the Golden Age and then during the Second Summer, her reign in Telmarine Narnia, wasn't necessary as healthy or successful as Peter's.) A weaker bond, one that didn't give Narnia as much power -- more or less just the awareness of the country at a barely conscious level, and very occasionally knowledge of how Narnia's feeling at the moment. Whereas Peter's aware of it all the time.

And yeah, Peta's Narnia likes Peter better. There's an awkward moment...though frankly, on some level Peta's glad of it, because she's so relieved at what she, Edmund, and Caspian (because the second time 'round, it was Caspian rather than Edmund) ended up with compared to Peter and his Edmund. And on another level...well. Awkwardness all 'round!

Aw, thanks. *blush*

No, I think -- and I don't remember exactly what happens in that scene, because there's a similar scene at the end of "Constellated" and I, um, get them mixed up -- it happens after that. And I don't think there's anything important between the two, although there's a radical departure in Caspian's attitude (which, hell, I think is covered in the film, but people keep telling me I have to explain), but there's one bit between "The Bone's Prayer" and the battle, and probably one before "Constellated." It could happen afterwards, though. *thoughtful*

Maybe? I'm not really sure. I think Peter has too much of a guilt complex, and Edmund doesn't prefer men.

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Okay, wait, back up. Peter is staring at Aslan, and Lucy comes in and comforts him, and then Edmund comes in and say's "Pete, you'd better come quickly." and then they run ouside and it's like BAM! Miraz's army. The next thing we see is the second council of war. So it happens after they see Miraz's army but before the second council of war? Or does it happen after that? (between the council of war and when Edmund delivers the message to Miraz) It would be just like Narnia to want a booty call while Edmund was preparing to be diplomatic and Peter was preparing to fight(wait, wasn't Peter looking at maps? *is confused*).

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Okay, is that when it is? Because I honestly do not remember; that whole bit kind of jumbles together in my head, and the last time I saw PC I was sleep-deprived and evacuating New Orleans and also, on an airplane and the couple in front of me kept making out, which made it a little hard to see the little tiny screen. And before that I hadn't seen it since June.

It's between the second council of war and before Edmund delivering the message to Miraz. It actually starts at the second council of war; Edmund is wearing full armor when he goes to visit Miraz.

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I just realized we were talking about two differnt things. I thought we were still talking about Peter/Narnia(/Edmund) and you were talking about "The Bones Prayer". oh, my brain. It is so retarded some times. Sorry for all the confusion.

Thats when I guessed "The Bones Prayer" took place.

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Oh, the Peter/Narnia(/Edmund) immediately follows "Bone".

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That's what I thought.

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Although it may be a little AU now. *shrugs*

Er, you asked about why Peter was looking at maps up above. He's looking at plans of the How; he's coming up with the plan to bring down the tunnels and cripple the Telmarine cavalry.

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I figured it was something like that, though I always thought that it was Edmund who actually thought of the collapsing thing. Though I guess Edmund could have come up with it and Peter actually figured out how to do it. Though it seems more likely that Peter would be like, "We should do this!" and Edmund we be all, "Now let me figure out how."
Example:
Peter: We can't stay here. We need to ATTACK THE CASTLE!
Edmund: Yes, exactly, for all of these very logical reasons.

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That's not the mechanics of it, though, that's the why. Peter's the military genius, not Edmund. Anyone can say, "We should do this," but Peter's the one to figure out how. And that's a completely different scenario; it's Edmund translating the necessity of the action so that others understand why they're doing it.